Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Kiss America Goodbye

I know I've taken a long time in writing a new blog. I have no excuse for myself, except for the fact that I feel emotionally, spiritually, physically, and creatively exhausted. But here I am, with a full blog telling of what is on my very burdened heart and mind.

Last night, Barack Obama became the next President of  the United States to be. All during this day I have felt rotten sick, and praying to God that he would help us. The very fact that America has elected a socialist, pro-choice man who won't even salute his own flag to be their president blows my mind; I don't understand it, in fact I am appalled by it. The only thing it shows me is that our dear, dear America is no more. It is gone, and will never return to us. The slow decline of morals in the people has finally taken it's toll - or the beginning of it's toll - and I don't see how we can possibly recover from it. In one of Obama's memoir's he blatantly said that he would side with the Muslims if war broke out, and if he sticks to his word, he will not support Israel in a war with Iran. If that happens - and I pray that it does not - God will undoubtedly leave this country. He has blessed us because of our support of his chosen people, and when that support ends, so does his. Of course, he will never leave the remnant of his people, and that gives me comfort. Right now the passage in the Bible when God says that the sins of the fathers are passed down to the children makes a lot of sense to me. I wonder what kind of horrors will be passed to my children because of the decisions being made at this moment. 

Gretchen Emily Wolaver


Doug P. Baker said...

AMEN to everything you said. I remember the line you are refering to in Obama's The Audacity of Hope. He said flat out that he will side with the Muslims. That means against America and against Israel. I'd almost rather that he side against America if he can still side with Israel. But not Obama.

I just keep reminding myself that the King is still on the throne, and He is still ruling, despite appearances.

Tom Huizinga said...

Hi Gretchen,

Thanks for reading and commenting on my blog. I wasn't aware of the line in The Audacity of Hope (according to Mr. Baker) in which he stated that he would side against Israel, but it does not surprise me, based on his friendship with Khalid al-Mansour and Rashid Khalidi, not to mention the testimony of Ali Abunimah who witnessed Obama speak publicly of his support for the Palestinian cause.

This man is going to be such a failure. His policies are going to be so destructive. We must accept that. And we must exploit it. Let us voice our opposition and argue our case so loudly that no ear can escape it.

The people of this nation have been fooled. But I don't think they're a lost cause. They are a product of the government indoctrination centers we call "public schools" which are run by liberal bureaucrats like Ted Kennedy and influenced by socialist activists like William Ayers and Barack Obama. Ronald Reagan often spoke of the need to educate the folks. That is our mission now. We need to educate them. We have, in front of us, a grand case study on Marxism. While this may prove to be one of the most destructive presidencies in history, we can make it one of the most instructive as well. That, I believe, is our mission for the next four years.

Doug P. Baker said...

Obama's exact sentence was, "If the political winds shift in an ugly direction I will side with the Muslims." from The Audacity Of Hope

Talk about audacity!!!

robert said...

Gretchen and Doug, the actual quote from President Elect Obama's book, The Audacity of Hope follows. “In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly: they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during WWII, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” As you can see, he was actually referring to his commitment to protect the civil rights of Arab and Pakistani Americans and never used the word Muslim. It is obvious that neither of you have really read the book or at least an accurate unbiased representation of the text. Taking a quote out of context, substituting words to fit your needs then claiming that the quote indicates something that it clearly doesn't is nothing more than lying. Surely, this is not how Jesus would have acted. I would suggest that in such a heated political climate, it is in the best interest of our great nation to make sure that such claims are factual so as not to spread lies, gossip or innuendo.

Gretchen Emily Wolaver said...


I have never read 'The Audacity of Hope', and can promise you that I never shall. I might have taken the quote out of context, but that does not nullify my point. Obama's actions speak for themselves in this matter; his relationship with Khalid al-Mansour and Rashid Khalid - who praised him for his "sympathy for the Palestinian cause". The very fact that he says that he will "talk with" Achmadinijad - a man who blatantly says that he will wipe Israel off the face of the map -, proves my point. Despite your opinions, you can't ignore these facts.

robert said...


I haven't read "The Audacity of Hope" either, but I did take a few minutes to google the quote and discover the inaccuracies in your understanding of what he said and meant. I do find it disconcerting that you have no interest in what President Elect Obama actually says in his book. Truth can not be viewed through blinders. If a person is unwilling to consider all sides of a story, then they are unable to make a fair truthful judgement of the facts. President Elect Obama's relationships with Khalid al-Mansour and Rashid Khalid have been blown out of proportion and twisted like your "muslim" statement. As for talking to the leaders of of unfriendly countries, I would much rather have a President who has the wisdom and ability to understand those who might threaten us and to communicate with leaders such as Achmadinijad to seek a non-aggressive resolution to our differences than one who uses war as a club to beat all who disagree with "US Policy" into line. If war is necessary, then so be it, but war is not a tool of diplomacy, it is a tool of aggression and should be used as a last resort. President Elect Obama has been elected by the highest popular margin in recent history and deserves a chance to prove himself. I believe your fears are unwarranted and certainly unfounded at this time. That is my opinion. My only opinion in my last posting was about making false claims, which I would hope you agree with. And your facts really mean nothing. Who a person "hangs out" with is less important than how he conducts his life.

Doug P. Baker said...

Robert, I think you are wrong. You say that it is of little importance who a person pals around with. But one's associates both make us who we are and tell the world who we are.

Read Psalm 1.

A president's counselors generally define the flavor a presidency more even than the president himself.

And with how little we know of PE Obama, his associates are one of the best ways to learn about him. Gretchen is quite right to be very nervous about some of his pals.

And his choice of friends also fits with the ideas that she referred to in her post.

robert said...

Doug and Gretchen

Thanks for joining in Doug. First off, I did not say “that it is of little importance who a person pals around with.” My quote which was right in front of you is “Who a person "hangs out" with is less important than how he conducts his life.” As in your earlier posting where you claim “Obama's exact sentence was, "If the political winds shift in an ugly direction I will side with the Muslims." from The Audacity Of Hope”, you are twisting someone else words into what you want them to say so as to support what you want to believe rather than what really is. As I stated previously, this is nothing more than lying. Read the following scripture:

I like the first two especially

Ephesians 4:25, "Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another."

Proverbs 19:22, "The desire of a man is his kindness: and a poor man is better than a liar."

Psalms 52:2-4, "Thy tongue deviseth mischiefs; like a sharp razor, working deceitfully. Thou lovest evil more than good; and lying rather than to speak righteousness. Selah. Thou lovest all devouring words, O thou deceitful tongue."

Psalms 101:7, "He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight."

Proverbs 12:22, "Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight."

Matthew 15:19, "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts…false witness…These are the things which defile a man: "

1 Timothy 4:2, "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;"

Revelation 22:14-15, "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are…whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."

Its my guess that we will never agree. You would rather live in a world of half truths and fear, while I would prefer one of honesty and hope. As one Christian to another, and Gretchen, one Wolaver to another, I recommend checking your facts, paraphrase accurately and rather than fear that God will no longer lend his support to the United States because of the election of Barack Obama, pray that He will give Obama the wisdom, courage and strength to lead our tarnished but Great Country out of the disastrous, disgraceful position we find ourselves in today. This would truly be the Christian thing to do.

Robert Wolaver

Doug P. Baker said...


All else aside, with the last half of your last paragraph I wholeheartedly agree. The King is still on the throne and he has not forgotten his people. There is plenty of room for hope.